tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post1504363326847512814..comments2023-06-13T19:06:50.965-07:00Comments on Oasis: It's All About JesusKarlahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15737176726360623655noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-4554905839761596232010-06-11T14:25:09.603-07:002010-06-11T14:25:09.603-07:00boomSLANG said: In any event, perhaps he can laugh...boomSLANG said: In any event, perhaps he can laugh about it because, to my understanding, he wasn't indoctrinated with any religious beliefs.<br /><br />Yup. I am one of the lucky ones....CyberKittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394155516712665665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-15395847654052940702010-06-11T10:42:19.964-07:002010-06-11T10:42:19.964-07:00Karla: Cyber seemed to be uncertain if the questio...Karla: <i>Cyber seemed to be uncertain if the question was directed to him...</i><br /><br />I'm fairly certain that when he(Cyberkitten) said, "Who.. me?", it was said tongue-in-cheek. I could be wrong, though, and I certainly don't want to defend my errors. In any event, perhaps he can laugh about it because, to my understanding, he wasn't indoctrinated with any religious beliefs. Whereas, I <i>was</i>.boomSLANGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820077215682328240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-40623345370389656352010-06-11T08:03:59.760-07:002010-06-11T08:03:59.760-07:00Boom, sorry for the confusion. Cyber seemed to be ...Boom, sorry for the confusion. Cyber seemed to be uncertain if the question was directed to him so I thought I would ask to clarify.Karlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15737176726360623655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-77239503931047728212010-06-11T07:43:34.782-07:002010-06-11T07:43:34.782-07:00Karla: Boom was your question to me or Cyber?
I&#...Karla: <i>Boom was your question to me or Cyber?</i><br /><br />I'm sorry, but I thought it would have been implicitly obvious that I wouldn't be asking <i>you</i> how to "combat the <b>theist</b> who[etc., etc.]". <br /><br />As I have stated on another thread, I'm done; I've concluded that it's an utter waste of time. Unless you have a for question me, or Atheists in general,(as I try my best to answer every question put to me, whereas, you do not), I won't be engaging you any longer.<br /><br />I'll check in from time-to-time to see if any progress is being made with the other Atheist guests, but frankly, I'm not hopeful.boomSLANGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820077215682328240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-35423543555408170832010-06-11T06:23:17.355-07:002010-06-11T06:23:17.355-07:00Boom was your question to me or Cyber? If to me, I...Boom was your question to me or Cyber? If to me, I'm not sure what you are asking me.Karlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15737176726360623655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-648924620048917712010-06-10T14:16:20.570-07:002010-06-10T14:16:20.570-07:00boomSLANG said: So, my question is---how will you ...boomSLANG said: So, my question is---how will you combat the theist who simply asserts his or her premise "true" within their argument.<br /><br />Who.. me?<br /><br />Erm, laughter usually...... and maybe some eye-rolling.CyberKittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394155516712665665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-62727076606275759382010-06-10T12:39:10.488-07:002010-06-10T12:39:10.488-07:00Cyberkitten: What 'beyond'?
Precisely. So...Cyberkitten: <i>What 'beyond'?</i><br /><br />Precisely. So, my question is---how will you combat the theist who simply asserts his or her premise "true" <i>within</i> their argument....aka, <i>begging the question</i>(logical fallacy)?boomSLANGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820077215682328240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-15828315971702055452010-06-10T10:58:39.469-07:002010-06-10T10:58:39.469-07:00karla said: Science is a great way to study the ph...karla said: Science is a great way to study the physical world, but it will not aid you beyond that.<br /><br />What 'beyond'?CyberKittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394155516712665665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-28245423111373295752010-06-10T10:54:23.150-07:002010-06-10T10:54:23.150-07:00Truth is not confined to the physical realm. Scien...Truth is not confined to the physical realm. Science is a great way to study the physical world, but it will not aid you beyond that.Karlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15737176726360623655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-67276173600122251082010-06-10T10:19:20.519-07:002010-06-10T10:19:20.519-07:00karla said: apologetics is limited to only intelle...karla said: apologetics is limited to only intellectual discourse and is not itself the chief method of encountering truth.<br /><br />No, that would be *Science*. [grin]CyberKittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394155516712665665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-68036408532177423762010-06-10T09:21:31.372-07:002010-06-10T09:21:31.372-07:00Really my over all point wasn't about the lack...Really my over all point wasn't about the lack of apologetics elsewhere, but that apologetics is limited to only intellectual discourse and is not itself the chief method of encountering truth.Karlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15737176726360623655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-24742394053824307772010-06-10T09:18:55.082-07:002010-06-10T09:18:55.082-07:00Mike “Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses
...Mike “Mormonism<br /> Jehovah's Witnesses<br /> Islam<br /> Buddhism<br /> Hinduism”<br /><br />Islam doesn’t really permit criticism of the Koran. They say that only particular scholars who can read it in its original language are adept at knowing what it says and thus no Westerner can really read it right. Therefore there is no reason to open it up to analysis. Now that being said, I did attend a debate between a Christian and a Muslim on the topic of Jesus Resurrection, but the Muslim did get to the point where he gave the defense that the Christian can’t really understand the Koran. <br /><br />Yes, Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses do have apologetics of sorts. <br /><br />Buddhism and Hinduism has religious professors that are experts in their fields, but I don’t know much beyond that. I don’t know that the average Buddhist or Hindu has material available to them to give a defense of their belief system. I could be wrong. <br /><br />Yes, I do see that some defenses have developed in response to Christianity, and yes I see that with atheism.Karlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15737176726360623655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-27099720295432235082010-06-10T08:50:16.861-07:002010-06-10T08:50:16.861-07:00Agreed Mike. I find that most (if not all) religio...Agreed Mike. I find that most (if not all) religious philosophies practice apologetics of some kind.....CyberKittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394155516712665665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1891021171911308006.post-46606733958374555842010-06-10T08:44:35.198-07:002010-06-10T08:44:35.198-07:00"However, I am trying to think of another bel..."However, I am trying to think of another belief system that utilizes a philosophical defense such as apologetics"<br /><br />Mormonism<br />Jehovah's Witnesses<br />Islam<br />Buddhism<br />Hinduism<br /><br />And many more, I'm sure.<br /><br />In some cases the apologetics of other faiths grew up as a defense against Christian evangelism. Not unlike atheist apologetics tends to be a response to evangelical Christianity most of the time.Mike aka MonolithTMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08385705390882035829noreply@blogger.com